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Author Subject:  Ïðîñüáà
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Posted 18-10-03 - 04:16 PM
Àçàìàò, òû íå ìîã áû ïåðåâåñòè LONELINESS - RING THE ALARM? Êàê ìîæíî áîëåå òî÷íî, òîëüêî áåç ðèôì... à òî ó ìåíÿ â ãîëîâå êðóòÿòñÿ òå âèðøè, â êîòîðûå ïðåâðàòèëàñü ýòà ïåñíÿ ïîä íàòèñêîì ìîåãî âîîáðàæåíèÿ...
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Ëàäíî, ïåðåâåäó. ß ñàì ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ýòî çíà÷èò - ïåðâè÷íîå âîñïðèÿòèå. Îò íåãî òàê òðóäíî áûâàåò èíîãäà îòäåëàòüñÿ :)
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Posted 21-10-03 - 04:31 AM // Updated 21-10-03 - 04:34 AM
Íå ãàðàíòèðóþ òî÷íîñòü ïåðåâîäà. ß íå ïîíÿë ñìûñëà ïåñíè.

Loneliness – ring the alarm
Well, I’m for real but I’m on my way
Silent, of course, but I won’t be late
Greed, don’t you worry, never let it gonna stay
Beat it my loneliness – Go!
So strip it up whatever you don’t have to change style
No more trauma, was so far away, you’ll only make it die
Come back again, always a friend
Is that the message I’d like to send?
I want you to feel no more loneliness
So ring the alarm
You open my mind
Now I talk to the sign
You clear up the sight
Now I’m up for the night
Time is for real something you’ll never change
All that you gotta do, of course, you’re acting strange
Rise again, set again, it’s all within your range
Do what you gotta do – Go!
So don’t come tell me things that you don’t understand
When it’s all about the honesty and time for you to learn Come back again, you’re always are friend
Is that the message I’d like to send?
I want you to feel no more loneliness
So ring the alarm
You open my mind
Now I talk to the sign
You clear up the sight
Now I’m up for the night
(When) I know I’m supposed to be right
(but) I know that you can’t stop the flow
(and) You know I’m here gonna be
What you are but not what you see
I want you to feel no more loneliness
I want you to feel no more loneliness
So ring the alarmI want you to feel no more loneliness
So ring the alarm
You open my mind
Now I talk to the sign
You clear up the sight
Now I’m up for the night

Ïåðåâîä ïðÿìîé, ñ ïîòåðåé ñìûñëà

Îäèíî÷åñòâî – êîëüöî òðåâîãè
Íó è, ÿ çà ðåàëüíîñòü, íî ÿ íå íà ñâîåì ïóòè
Ñêðûòíûé, êîíå÷íî, íî ÿ íå îïîçäàþ
Æàäíîñòü, âû íå âîëíóéòåñü, íèêîãäà íå ïîçâîëÿéòå ÷òîáû ýòî ñîáèðàëîñü îñòàòüñÿ
Âûáåéòå ìî¸ îäèíî÷åñòâî – Âïåðåä!
Òàê ðàñòÿíè âñå òî, â ÷åì òû íå äîëæíà ìåíÿòü ñòèëü
Òðàâìàì – íåò, áûë ÿ òàê äàëåêî, òû åäèíñòâåííàÿ êòî ìîæåò âûäðàòü ýòî èç ìåíÿ
Âåðíèñü ñíîâà, çàêàäû÷íûé äðóã
È ýòî òî ñîîáùåíèå, ÷òî ÿ õîòåë áû îòïðàâèòü?
ß õî÷ó, ÷òîáû òû áîëüøå íèêîãäà íå èñïûòûâàëà îäèíî÷åñòâî
Êàê êîëüöî òðåâîãè
Òû îòêðûëà ìíå ãëàçà
Ñåé÷àñ ÿ îáùàþñü ñî çíàêîì
Òû ïðîÿñíèëà âçãëÿä
Ñåé÷àñ ÿ â àïîãåå íî÷è
Âðåìÿ, ýòî òàêàÿ ðåàëüíàÿ âåùü, êîòîðàÿ òåáå íåïîäâëàñòíà
Âñå ÷òî òû äîëæíà ñäåëàòü, íó êîíå÷íî, òû äåéñòâóåøü ñòðàííî
Âîñêðåñíè ñíîâà è óìðè, ýòî âñå â òâîåé âëàñòè
Äåëàé, ÷òî òû äîëæíà äåëàòü – Âïåðåä!
Òàê, ÷òî äàæå íå ñïðàøèâàé ìåíÿ î òîì, ÷åãî íå çíàåøü
Êîãäà âñå âîêðóã ñïðàâåäëèâî è âðåìÿ ðàáîòàåò íà òåáÿ
Âåðíèñü ñíîâà, çàêàäû÷íûé äðóã
È ýòî òî ñîîáùåíèå, ÷òî ÿ õîòåë áû îòïðàâèòü?
ß õî÷ó, ÷òîáû òû áîëüøå íèêîãäà íå èñïûòûâàëà îäèíî÷åñòâî
Êàê êîëüöî òðåâîãè
Òû îòêðûëà ìíå ãëàçà
Ñåé÷àñ ÿ îáùàþñü ñî çíàêîì
Òû ïðîÿñíèëà âçãëÿä
Ñåé÷àñ ÿ â àïîãåå íî÷è
(Êîãäà) ß çíàþ, ÷òî ÿ ïîäîçðåâàë áóäóùóþ ïðàâîòó
(íî) ß çíàþ, ÷òî òû íå â ñèëàõ îñòàíîâèòü õîä ñîáûòèé
(è) Òû çíàåøü, ÿ ñîáèðàþñü áûòü çäåñü
×òî òû íà ñàìîì äåëå, íî íå òî, ÷òî òû âèäèøü
ß õî÷ó, ÷òîáû òû áîëüøå íèêîãäà íå èñïûòûâàëà îäèíî÷åñòâî
ß õî÷ó, ÷òîáû òû áîëüøå íèêîãäà íå èñïûòûâàëà îäèíî÷åñòâî
Êàê êîëüöî òðåâîãè
ß õî÷ó, ÷òîáû òû áîëüøå íèêîãäà íå èñïûòûâàëà îäèíî÷åñòâî
Êàê êîëüöî òðåâîãè
Òû îòêðûëà ìíå ãëàçà
Ñåé÷àñ ÿ îáùàþñü ñî çíàêîì
Òû ïðîÿñíèëà âçãëÿä
Ñåé÷àñ ÿ â àïîãåå íî÷è

Âîò òàê, íåìíîãî ñòðàííî, íî çàòî áåç ðèôìû. Åñëè áû ÿ ñòàë ðèôìîâàòü ýòó ïåñíþ, òî îíà ÷èòàëàñü áû ïðèÿòíåå.
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Ìììì? Îäèíî÷åñòâî - òðåâîæíûé çâîíîê, à íå êîëüöî òðåâîãè, ÈÌÕÎ. À çà îñòàëüíîå - îãðîìíîå ñïàñèáî!
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Well, I’m for real but I’m on my way
Äà, ÿ çà ïðàâäó, íî ÿ íà ñâîåì ïóòè
Silent, of course, but I won’t be late
Íå îïîçäàþ, òèïà, ïîìîë÷è,
Greed, don’t you worry, never let it gonna stay
Æàäíîñòü – áîèøüñÿ?- òèïà íå îñòàíîâèòü
Beat it my loneliness – Go!
Ïðî÷ü îäèíî÷åñòâî – Íó!
So strip it up whatever you don’t have to change style
Çàäâèíü, ìíå íå âàæíî, ÷òî òû íå èçìåíèøü ñòèëü
No more trauma, was so far away, you’ll only make it die
Òðàâìû, ÷òî â ïðîøëîì, ïðîñòî îòïóñòè
Come back again, always a friend
Ñíîâà âåðíèñü, äðóã íà âñþ æèçíü
Is that the message I’d like to send?
- âîò ñîîáùåíèå, ÷òî ÿ á ïîñëàë?
I want you to feel no more loneliness
Ïî÷óâñòâóé ìîå îäèíî÷åñòâî
So ring the alarm
Òðåâîæíûé çâîíîê
You open my mind

Now I talk to the sign

You clear up the sight

Now I’m up for the night

Time is for real something you’ll never change
Âðåìÿ, êîíå÷íî æå, èçìåíèòü íåëüçÿ
All that you gotta do, of course, you’re acting strange
Âñå, ÷òî òû äåëàåøü, òàê ñòðàííî, êàê âñåãäà
Rise again, set again, it’s all within your range
Ïîäíèìèñü, çàêàòèñü, êàê ÿðêàÿ çâåçäà/êàê ñîëíöå â íåáåñàõ
Do what you gotta do – Go!
Äåëàé, ÷òî òû äîëæíà – Íó!
So don’t come tell me things that you don’t understand
Ìîë÷è æå òû î òîì, ÷òî íå ñìîãëà ïîíÿòü
When it’s all about the honesty and time for you to learn
Íó, òàì, î «÷åñòíîñòè», î «âðåìåíè ïîçíàòü»
Come back again, you’re always are friend
Ñíîâà âåðíèñü, òû - äðóã íà âñþ æèçíü
Is that the message I’d like to send?
Âîò ñîîáùåíèå, ÷òî ÿ á ïîñëàë?
I want you to feel no more loneliness
Ïî÷óâñòâóé ìîå îäèíî÷åñòâî
So ring the alarm
Òðåâîæíûé çâîíîê
You open my mind

Now I talk to the sign

You clear up the sight

Now I’m up for the night

(When) I know I’m supposed to be right
Äà, ÿ çíàþ, ÿ ðåøèë ïðàâûì áûòü
(but) I know that you can’t stop the flow
Íî ÿ çíàþ, ÷òî íå îñòàíîâèòü
(and) You know I’m here gonna be
Çíàåøü òû, ÿ çäåñü äîëæåí áûòü
What you are but not what you see
×òî òû åñòü, à íå âíåøíèé âèä
I want you to feel no more loneliness
Ïî÷óâñòâóé ìîå îäèíî÷åñòâî
I want you to feel no more loneliness
Ïî÷óâñòâóé ìîå îäèíî÷åñòâî
So ring the alarm
Òðåâîæíûé çâîíîê
I want you to feel no more loneliness
Ïî÷óâñòâóé ìîå îäèíî÷åñòâî
So ring the alarm
Òðåâîæíûé çâîíîê
You open my mind

Now I talk to the sign

You clear up the sight

Now I’m up for the night

Íó, âîò òàê, ñ ðèôìàìè, áåç íàðêîòèêîâ, íî òðè ñòðîêè ïðîïóùåíû. Êòî ñìîæåò íå íàðóøàÿ ðèòìà è ðèôìû äîáàâèòü íåäîñòàþùèå òðè ñòðîêè, òîò, òèïà, ïðåâçîøåë ìåíÿ íà ýòîì ïîïðèùå. Äåðçàéòå!

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Posted 21-10-03 - 07:42 PM
Î! Ïðåâçîøåë.

Âçàïðàâäàøíèé ÿ, íî ïîðà ìíå áåæàòü
Òèõî èäó, íå ìîãó îïîçäàòü
Æàäíîñòè áîëüøå ìåæ íàìè íå âñòðÿòü
Ïðî÷ü, îäèíî÷åñòâî - âîí!
Òàê äåëàé æå ÷òî õî÷åøü, íî çà÷åì ìåíÿòü ñòèëü?
Íåïðèÿòíîñòè íå ïîäáåðóòñÿ ê íàì íà ìíîãî ìèëü.
Ïðèõîäè êî ìíå ñíîâà, äðóã íàâñåãäà
 ýòîì ëè ñìûñë ïîñëàíèÿ - äà!

Íåíàâèæó ÿ îäèíî÷åñòâî -
Òàê áåé â êîëîêîë!
Ïîêàçàëà òû ñïîñîá ïîñëàíüå ïîíÿòü,
Ìíå îòêðûëà ãëàçà - óõîæó íî÷åâàòü.

Âðåìÿ - òà èñòèíà, ÷òî èçìåíèòü íåëüçÿ
È öåëåé áåçóñëîâíî ñëèøêîì ìíîãî ó òåáÿ
Âñåãî äîáüåøñÿ òû ðàç ñåâ è ðàç âçîéäÿ
Äåëàé, ÷òî òðåáóåòñÿ - íó!
Íî íå ðàññêàçûâàé î òîì, ÷åãî íå ïîíèìàåøü
Âñå äåëî âñå æå â ÷åñòíîñòè, ñî âðåìåíåì óçíàåøü
Âîçâðàùàéñÿ æå ñíîâà, äðóã íàâñåãäà
 ýòîì ëè ñìûñë ïîñëàíèÿ - äà!

(Êîãäà) çíàåøü, ÷òî âèæó âåùåé ÿ âñþ ñóòü
(Íî) íåëüçÿ âñïÿòü ïîòîê ïîâåðíóòü
(Òî) ÿ ðÿäîì, è ìîæåøü òû ñíîâà áûòü òåì,
×åì ÿâëÿåøüñÿ, à íå ÷åì êàæåøüñÿ âñåì.

Ðèôìà åñòü, ðèòì òîæå áîëüøåé ÷àñòüþ èìååòñÿ. Ïîë÷àñà ïîòóãîâ â íåðâíîé îáñòàíîâêå (ñîñåäè ïî îáùàãå âòîðóþ íåäåëþ áóõàþò). Êñòàòè Àçàìàò, ó òåáÿ íåñêîëüêî îøèáîê â àíãëèéñêîì âàðèàíòå.

À òåïåðü òåîðèÿ.  Õàðòèè ïåðåâîä÷èêîâ èìååòñÿ ñïèñîê íåîáõîäèìûõ êà÷åñòâ ïåðåâîä÷èêà, ãäå íà ïåðâîì ìåñòå ñòîèò çíàíèå ÿçûêà, íà êîòîðûé ïåðåâîäèøü, è ëèøü íà ÷åòâåðòîì - òîãî, ñ êîòîðîãî ïåðåâîäèøü. Ìîòèâèðóåòñÿ ýòî òåì, ÷òî íåïîíÿòíûå êîíñòðóêöèè â ÿçûêå îðèãèíàëà ìîæíî ðàçîáðàòü áëàãîäàðÿ ïîäðó÷íûì ñðåäñòâàì, à íåçíàíèå ðîäíîãî íè÷åì íå ñêîìïåíñèðîâàòü. ß æå ïî ñâîåìó îïûòó çíàþ, ÷òî â ðåàëå ñîâñåì íàîáîðîò, åñëè íå ïîíèìàåøü, î ÷åì èäåò ðå÷ü - èäåàëüíîå çíàíèå ðîäíîãî ÿçûêà íå ïîìîæåò. Ñëîâàðè çäåñü íå ïîìîãàþò: â ñàìîì ïîëíîì àíãëèéñêîì ñëîâàðå (Oxford Unabridged) èìååòñÿ ïðèìåðíî 750,000 ñëîâ. Ïðè ýòîì àíãëèéñêèé èìååò îãðîìíîå êîëè÷åñòâî ñèíîíèìîâ, êîòîðûå èìåþò ìåæ ñîáîé òîíêèå, íî ñåìàíòè÷åñêè âàæíûå ðàçëè÷èÿ. Òî åñòü èäèîìû, îñîáåííî â ëèðèêå, âîçíèêàþò íà ïóñòîì ìåñòå. Áåç ãëóáîêîãî çíàíèÿ êóëüòóðû è âûñîêîðàçâèòîãî ÷óâñòâà ÿçûêà, õîðîøèå ïåðåâîäû äåëàòü íåâîçìîæíî. ×òî ïîäòâåðæäàåòñÿ áîëüøèíñòâîì ðîññèéñêîé ïåðåâîäíîé ëèòðû âî ãëàâå ñ ñåðèåé áåäíÿãè Ðîáåðòà Ëàäëýìà ("Èäåíòèôèêàöèÿ Áîðíà" è ò.ä.). À âîò ïîíÿâ, ÷òî èìåë â âèäó àâòîð, óæå ìîæíî ïðîëèñòûâàòü ñëîâàðè èäèîì, èùà íàèáîëåå ïîäõîäÿùèé ýêâèâàëåíò.

À âòîðîå, ÷òî îòíîñèòñÿ ê ëþáîìó ïåðåâîäó, íî â íàèáîëåå ãëóáîêîé ñòåïåíè - ê ëèðèêå, ýòî òî, ÷òî ïåðåâîäèòü íàäî íå ñëîâà, à ìûñëè. Õîðîøèé ïåðåâîä à) äàåò ÷èòàòåëþ òó æå èíôîðìàöèþ, á) îñòàâëÿåò òàêîå æå âïå÷àòëåíèå, â) èñïîëüçóåò òå æå èäèîìû, ÷òî è îðèãèíàë.  ïîðÿäêå óìåíüøåíèÿ âàæíîñòè. Ïîýòîìó åñëè âû ïî÷èòàåòå ñîíåòû Øåêñïèðà â ïåðåâîäå Ìàðøàêà, áåçóñëîâíî ãåíèàëüíåéøåãî ïåðåâîä÷èêà, òî óâèäèòå, ÷òî åãî òåêñòû íå òîëüêî íå ñîîòâåòñòâóþò îðèãèíàëó ñòðîãî, íî è çà÷àñòóþ ïåðåïèñàíû çàíîâî, ñîõðàíèâ òîëüêî îáùóþ èäåþ.

*Óäàëÿåòñÿ, íàñâèñòûâàÿ Culture Beat - Mr. Vain *
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Åùå ðàç ïîâòîðÿþ, ïåðåâîä äåëàëñÿ íà îäíîì äûõàíèè. Ñ ïîòåðåé ñìûñëà. Áåç ðèôì. Òàê ÷òî ïðàçäíóéòå ïîáåäó, ÿ â ýòîì íå ó÷àñòâóþ.
Âîçìîæíî â ìîåì ïåðåâîäå åñòü îøèáêè.
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Äà ëàäíî, Àçàìàò, íå ïðèáåäíÿéñÿ, ó òåáÿ ïîëó÷èëñÿ íîðìàëüíûé ïåðåâîä... òî÷íåå ãîâîðÿ, êàêîé òåêñò, òàêîé è ïåðåâîä.
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*Ïûòàåòñÿ ïåðåñâèñòåòü ïåñíåé 2 Unlimited - No Limits ' 2003*
Õì, à ÅâðîÄýíñ òî âîçâðàùàåòñÿ, ñîððè çà îôôòîï.
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Azamat
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À-à-à, ðàñêóñèëà!!!
Äà ÿ ñîãëàñåí ñòîáîé, ÷òî òåêñò è ñìûñë íå àõòè êàêîé. Äà ïðîñòÿò ìåíÿ òå, äëÿ êîãî ýòà ïåñíÿ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ëþáèìîé.


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Èäó ÿ ïî ÿðêî îñâåùåííîìó êîðèäîðó, ãäå-òî çâó÷èò ìóçûêà. Íèêîãî íåò. È ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî çäàíèå íàõîäèòñÿ ãëóáîêî ïîä çåìëåé. Èäó íà çâóê. Íåêàÿ êîìíàòà, îïÿòü æå íèêîãî íåò. Íà ñòåíå âûöàðàïàíî ãâîçäåì - "Music was set by FlasherT", à íèæå åùå êðóïíûìè áóêâàìè "by Michael". Ïîäõîæó ê íåêîìó ìóçûêàëüíîìó ñåðâåðó. Ãëÿäÿ íà åãî ñâåòîäèîäû ÿ áóäòî äàæå ñëûøó - "Âûêëþ÷è ìåíÿ, ÿ óñòàë". Âûäèðàþ èç ðîçåòêè âèëêó, çàìîëêàåò ìóçûêà, è, êàê ñëåäñòâèå ýòîãî - áëàæåííàÿ òèøèíà. Âûêëþ÷èâ ñâåò â êîìíàòå ÿ èäó ïî äëèííîìó ìðà÷íîìó êîðèäîðó. Ãäå-òî â äàëåêå ñëûøåí òîïîò, êòî-òî áåæèò êî ìíå. ×óâñòâóþ, ÷òî-òî íå òàê. ß îñòàíàâëèâàþñü è ïðèæèìàþñü ê ñòåíå â íàäåæäå íà òî, ÷òî ÿ îñòàíóñü íåçàìå÷åííûì. Êòî-òî ïðîáåãàÿ ìèìî ìåíÿ âäðóã îñòàíàâëèâàåòñÿ. È òóò ÿ ïîíÿë êòî ýòî áåæàë ïî êîðèäîðó. Ýòî áûë ñòðàøíûé è óæàñíûé ×ÓÆÎÉ. Î, êàêîé æå îí óæàñíûé. Îí ãëÿäèò íà ìåíÿ, ÿ ãëÿæó íà íåãî. Îí ãëÿäèò íà ìåíÿ, ÿ òîæå ãëÿæó íà íåãî. Ãëóïîå ìîë÷àíèå ïðåðûâàåò ×ÓÆÎÉ.
-Well?
-×åãî íó?
-What are you staring at me?
- Íó, äûê, ñòðàøíûé òû âåäü.
-Who? I'm not beast.
-Íå âåðèòñÿ ìíå ÷òî-òî
-Help me. I was losts in these corridors
-À êàê òû ñþäà ïîïàë?
-Oh, it's a very long history. It's all about my teleportsystem.
-À ÷òî ñ íèì ñëó÷èëîñü?
- I have no more energy.
-Î ÿ òåáå ïîìîãó. Òåáå âåäü íóæíà ýíåðãèÿ. ß çíàþ ãäå åå ìîæíî äîñòàòü.
-Really?!
-Êîíå÷íî. Follow me.
Òåïåðü óæå âäâîåì ìû áåæèì ê ñòàäèîíó. Èíîãäà îñòàíàâëèâàåìñÿ è ñâåðÿåìñÿ ïî êàðòå, ñâîðà÷èâàåì â äðóãèå âåòêè, áåæèì ïî ëåñòíèöàì. Áåæèì ê ñòàäèîíó, ãäå ñåãîäíÿ íå÷òî èíòåðåñíîå. Íó âîò, ìû íà ìåñòå. Ñðûâàåì ñ ïîæàðíîãî ùèòêà, áàãîð, òîïîð è îãíåòóøèòåëü.  íàøåì äåëå âñå ïðèãîäèòñÿ. Ñðûâàåì çàìîê ñâèñàþùèé ñ ïîòîëêà, îòêðûâàåì ëþê. Âûäèðàåì äåðí. Âûëåçàåì íàðóæó.  íàñ ñëåïèò ÿðêèé ñâåò, íî ýòî íåì íå ìåøàåò. Ìû çíàåì ñâîå äåëî. ×ÓÆÎÉ íàïðàâî, ÿ íàëåâî. Îí ìåòêî êèäàåò òîïîð - ïÿòü çàéöåâ ENERGEIZER ëåæàò íà çàìëå, åëå øåâåëÿòñÿ. ß ñ ðàçìàõó øâûðÿþ áàãîð - 8 çàéöåâ óáèòû. Ïîòîì â äåëî èäóò âåäðî è îãíåòóøèòåëü. Âàõ, ñëàâíî ïîðàáîòàëè. Íåñïåøíî õîäèì ïî ïîëþ, âûäèðàåì èç çàÿ÷üèõ ñïèí æåëàííûå áàòàðåéêè. Íó âîò, òåïåðü ó íàñ äîñòàòî÷íî ýíåðãèè. È îñòàâèâ ïîñëå ñåáÿ êó÷ó òóøåê ìû , ðàñêëàíÿâøèñü, çàëåçàåì îáðàòíî â òó æå äûðó îòêóäà è âûëåçëè. È âñå ýòî íà ãëàçàõ ìíîãîòûñÿ÷íûõ òðèáóí. Èäåì ïî êîðèäîðàì ê ìîäóëþ òåëåïîðòàöèè. Êèäàåì â ýíåðãîïðèåìíèê áàòàðåéêó çà áàòàðåéêîé, ñëåäèì çà ïîêàçàíèÿìè äàò÷èêîâ. Âñå ãîòîâî. Ïðîùàåìñÿ. Îí çàêðûâàåòñÿ â îòñåêå, íàæèìàåò íåñêîëüêî êíîïîê. Ïðîùàëüíûé âçìàõ ëàïêàìè è îí èñ÷åçàåò, îñòàâëÿÿ ïîñëå ñåáÿ âîðîõ ãàçåò, êîòîðûå êðóæàò âîêðóã.
È ÿ, ïîæàâ ïëå÷àìè, èäó äàëüøå ïî êîðèäîðó. Î ÷åì-òî äóìàþ. Âäðóã ñëûøó òîïîò ãäå-òî âäàëåêå. Ïðèêèäûâàþ, êàê äîéòè äî ñëåäóþùåãî ñòàäèîíà. À âñå òàêè ýòî çäîðîâî - ìèðîâîé ÷åìïèîíàò ENERGEIZER...

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To Flasher:

Òû íàøåë ó Àçàìàòà êàêèå-òî îøèáêè è äàæå ïðî÷åë åìó ëåêöèþ íà òåìó «ÊÀÊÈÌÈ ÊÀ×ÅÑÒÂÀÌÈ ÄÎËÆÅÍ ÎÁËÀÄÀÒÜ ÏÅÐÅÂÎÄ×ÈÊ»? Î÷åíü ìèëî ñ òâîåé ñòîðîíû. Òîãäà, ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, Àçàìàò – ãîðàçäî ëó÷øèé ïåðåâîä÷èê, ÷åì òû, ïîòîìó ÷òî ó íåãî îøèáêà ÎÄÍÀ è â ÀÍÃËÈÉÑÊÎÌ ÿçûêå (îí âñåãî ëèøü ñêàçàë HISTORY, êîãäà íàäî áûëî ñêàçàòü STORY), à ó òåáÿ îøèáîê ÏÎËÍÎ, è ïðè÷åì â ÐÓÑÑÊÎÌ ÿçûêå, õîòü îí òåáå, ìîæåò áûòü, è íå î÷åíü ðîäíîé, íî òåì íå ìåíåå, âñå æå ÂÒÎÐÎÉ ÐÎÄÍÎÉ! È âîò òåïåðü ÿ ëþáåçíî èñïðàâëÿþ òâîè ÐÈÒÌÈ×ÅÑÊÈÅ îøèáêè, îñòàâëÿÿ â ÒÂÎÈÕ ñòèõàõ ÒÂÎÈ æå ðèôìû.

Âçàïðàâäàøíèé ÿ, íî ïîðà ìíå áåæàòü
 Äà, ÿ ïî ïðàâäå, íî ìíå ïîðà áåæàòü
Òèõî èäó, íå ìîãó îïîçäàòü
 Òèõî èäó, ìíå íå îïîçäàòü
Æàäíîñòè áîëüøå ìåæ íàìè íå âñòðÿòü
 Æàäíîñòü… íå äàé åé ìåæäó íàìè âñòðÿòü
Ïðî÷ü, îäèíî÷åñòâî - âîí!
 Ïðî÷òü îäèíî÷åñòâî – âîí!
Òàê äåëàé æå ÷òî õî÷åøü, íî çà÷åì ìåíÿòü ñòèëü?
 Òàê äåëàé æå ÷òî õî÷åøü, íî çà÷åì êàëå÷èòü ñòèëü?
Íåïðèÿòíîñòè íå ïîäáåðóòñÿ ê íàì íà ìíîãî ìèëü.
 Ãåìîð îñòàâü çà òðè òûùè ìèëü
Ïðèõîäè êî ìíå ñíîâà, äðóã íàâñåãäà
 Ñíîâà ïðèäè, äðóã íàâñåãäà
 ýòîì ëè ñìûñë ïîñëàíèÿ - äà!
  ýòîì ëè ôèøêà? Íó, êîíå÷íî äà!

Íåíàâèæó ÿ îäèíî÷åñòâî –
 ß òàê íåëþáëþ îäèíî÷åñòâî -
Òàê áåé â êîëîêîë!
 Òðåâîæíûé çâîíîê!
Ïîêàçàëà òû ñïîñîá ïîñëàíüå ïîíÿòü,
 ???
Ìíå îòêðûëà ãëàçà - óõîæó íî÷åâàòü.
 ???

Âðåìÿ - òà èñòèíà, ÷òî èçìåíèòü íåëüçÿ
 Âðåìû – òî ñàìîå, ÷òî èçìåíèòü íåëüçÿ
È öåëåé áåçóñëîâíî ñëèøêîì ìíîãî ó òåáÿ
 È öåëåé ñ ëèõâîé õâàòèò äëÿ òåáÿ
Âñåãî äîáüåøñÿ òû ðàç ñåâ è ðàç âçîéäÿ

Äåëàé, ÷òî òðåáóåòñÿ - íó!
 Äåëàé, ÷òî òû äîëæíà – íó!
Íî íå ðàññêàçûâàé î òîì, ÷åãî íå ïîíèìàåøü

Âñå äåëî âñå æå â ÷åñòíîñòè, ñî âðåìåíåì óçíàåøü

Âîçâðàùàéñÿ æå ñíîâà, äðóã íàâñåãäà
 Ñíîâà âåðíèñü, äðóã íàâñåãäà
 ýòîì ëè ñìûñë ïîñëàíèÿ - äà!
  ýòîì ëè ôèøêà? Íó, êîíå÷íî, äà!

(Êîãäà) çíàåøü, ÷òî âèæó âåùåé ÿ âñþ ñóòü
 (Äà) òû çíàåøü, ÿ âèæó ñóòü
(Íî) íåëüçÿ âñïÿòü ïîòîê ïîâåðíóòü
 (Íî) ïîòîê íàì íå ïîâåðíóòü
(Òî) ÿ ðÿäîì, è ìîæåøü òû ñíîâà áûòü òåì,
 (Òî) ÿ ðÿäîì, òû ñíîâà áóäü
×åì ÿâëÿåøüñÿ, à íå ÷åì êàæåøüñÿ âñåì.
 Òåì, ÷òî åñòü, íàì åñòü íà ÷òî âçãëÿíóòü

To all:
Îñòàëèñü òðè íåçàðèôìîâàííûå ñòðî÷êè, êîòîðûå ïî-ïðåæíåìó ïðåäëàãàåòñÿ çàðèôìîâàòü, êàê è áûëî ñêàçàíî, ÍÅ ÍÀÐÓØÀß ÐÈÒÌÀ ÌÓÇÛÊÈ âñåì æåëàþùèì ïðåâçîéòè ìåíÿ íà ýòîì ïîïðèùå. *óäàëÿåñòÿ ÍÅ ìóðëû÷à ñåáå ïîä íîñ, íî â äóøå ãðåìèò DEIN WEISES FLEISCH ERLEUCHTET MICH, MEIN GOTT, O, GOTT, è ïîïñà óìèðàåò â êîð÷àõ*

To Azamat:
À êëàññíàÿ èñòîðèÿ ïðî ×ÓÆÎÃÎ :))) Íàïèøè åùå ÷òî-íèáóäü, ïîæàëóéñòà!

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Ëåíà, âî-ïåðâûõ òû ÍÅ èñïðàâèëà ðèòì, à â íåêîòîðûõ ìåñòàõ òû ïðîñòî íå ïîïàäàåøü â óäàðíûå ãëàñíûå - à âî-âòîðûõ, íåîòúåìëåìîé ÷àñòüþ ëþáîãî õîðîøåãî òåêñòà ÿâëÿåòñÿ íàëè÷èå ðàçëè÷èìîãî ñìûñëà.

Àçàìàòó æå ÿ ñêàçàë ÷òî ó íåãî îøèáêè â ðàñøèôðîâêå, ïðî ïåðåâîä ÿ íè÷åãî íå ãîâîðèë. À ëåêöèÿ ñêîðåå îáùàÿ, ÷åì äëÿ êîãî-ëèáî êîíêðåòíî.
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Posted 23-10-03 - 11:37 AM
Lena, òû ñëó÷àéíî íå ñîñòîèøü â ãèëüäèè àäâîêàòîâ :)

Èñòîðèÿ ïîëó÷èëàñü íåïëîõàÿ, íî ÿ âèæó â íåé íåêóþ ñòÿíóòîñòü. Ñêàçûâàåòñÿ òî, ÷òî äàâíî ÿ óæå íè÷åãî íå ïèøó. À ðàíüøå ó ìåíÿ ýòî õîðîøî ïîëó÷àëîñü. Íî âîçîáíîâëÿòü íèêîãäà íå ïîçäíî. Âî ìíå äðåìëåò ëèòåðàòîð. Âîò òàê ÿ ñîâìåùàþ â ñåáå äâå ðàçëè÷íûå ïî ñâîåé ïðèðîäå âåùè - ôèçèêó è ëèðèêó.

À íàñ÷åò ïðîäîëæåíèÿ - ýòî õîðîøàÿ ìûñëü. :)

P.S. Çàìåòèë â ñâîåé èñòîðèè òî, ÷òî â äåëî ïîøëî âåäðî, êîòîðîãî íå áûëî íà ïîæàðíîì ùèòêå. Ìîæåòå ýòî ïðîâåðèòü, òåêñò ÿ íå èçìåíÿë. :)
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To Flasher:

Ñïîðèòü ñ æóðíàëèñòîì - ýòî âñå ðàâíî ÷òî ïîëèâàòü ñâèíüþ ãðÿçüþ. Òàê ÷òî ÿ ñ òîáîé ñïîðèòü íå áóäó. À çà óðîê ñòèõîñëîæåíèÿ ñ òåáÿ 10 áàêñîâ, è ìíå ïëåâàòü, ïîéäåò îí òåáå íà ïîëüçó, èëè íåò.
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To Flasher again:
...îòðàáîòàåøü ýòè äåíüãè êëîóíîì, ó òåáÿ ýòî õîðîøî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ.

To Azamat:
Íå-à, ÿ íå àäâîêàò :)
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Posted 24-10-03 - 03:58 AM
Lena, ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî ìû çäåñü ìîæåì âñêîðå îñòàòüñÿ âäâîåì :)
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*Am Ende bleib ich doh alleine
Die Ziet steht still und mir ist kalt*

(Â êîíöå ÿ âñå ðàâíî îñòàíóñü îäèí
Âðåìÿ çàòèõëî, è ìíå õîëîäíî/ïëåâàòü)
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Èíòåðåñíûå ïåðåâîäû, òîâàðèùè, èíòåðåñíûå :) È ëåêöèè î ïåðåâîäàõ - òîæå :)
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To Arven: Ïîçäðàâëÿþ! Ó òåáÿ âñå ÎÊ ñ ÷óâñòâîì þìîðà
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